Posts made by Tim S

Wow... I checked my Google Home app for the first time in years to check my routines. They all were formatted saying "tell" triggerCMD instead of "ask" triggerCMD. Strange how "tell" worked for the past few years all the way up till the other day. Changed them all to "ask" and they are working again. Sorry to bother you...

So today after what has seemed years of working almost flawlessly it appears there has been a suicide in the family. I've done nothing in years except update TriggerCMD on my PC and as of today now when I ask Assistant to do any of the TriggerCMD things it was doing fine just 48hrs ago it now responds "Sorry, I don't understand." Does this mean that its all over now? Why did this all stop working all of the sudden? I know this has been a set it and forget it for me for what has seemed a few years now but has something changed and do I have to redo the "set it" all over again to make it start working so I can get back to "forget it" and have it working flawlessly again? What will it now take to get working again?

@meyerdenney Oh the good old days... I don't think so anymore. When I first got my TriggerCMD account the "OK let's get TriggerCMD" was was never said by Google Assistant. In the GUI editor I have most of my replies as just "Boom." Not only did Google add the announcement of the service it is connecting with, the whole reply is now in two voices. "Ok let's get TriggerCMD" in the female british voice I chose and the "boom" must be the default generic guy voice given to Google Assistant by Google I assume. If I'm wrong I would love to be corrected to turn off redundant communication from my Google Assistant. The phrase "talking just because they love to hear themself speak" often comes to mind with the Google Assistant.

@username6 Ever hear of X10? I jumped in back in 2010. Long story short, it is basically RF switches in a way via powerline... Old tech that, thanks to TriggerCMD, can trigger the usb RF transmitter plugged into my Windows PC via Google Assistant. I bought a Google Home about 1 1/2 yrs ago and stumbled across a Youtube demonstration of how to get this old tech working with Google Assistant for the cost of only $10 per year to TriggerCMD. I've been very happy with the result and not having to buy 20 outlets and switches to incorporate them on a more modern tech platform. And all my old RF remotes still work also.

@username6 I hear ya! It annoys me too. I use to say "hey google, kitchen light on" and hear nothing but the TriggerCMD reply I had set up of "Boom."
I can't figure out what the added dialog is doing for Google or why it was considered an upgrade to the prior way it was experienced?

@russ Thanks for checking. GA could do everything else but claimed it just couldn't get a "response" from TriggerCMD, everything was good on my end too. The next morning GA connected to T CMD just fine with first request when I woke. Was certainly temporary. I think almost 17 months with T CMD and had never had anything like that happen before while I still had internet at my house. I've had internet down before and GA usually responds by telling me it can't reach internet. I've gotten spoiled leaving lights on way to bed and saying my "All Lights Off" command as I pull the blankets up. Kinda sucked to grab my old bedside x10 rf remote that hasn't been used in over a year to find the batteries dead too... lol. Had to climb out of bed and do it the old fashion way. Life was rough that night like it was back in 2009...

@russ
I'm getting a "TriggerCMD isn't responding right now" from my Google Assistant 11:20pm pst
This is new

@russ Thanks for the responses and caring about this. Would it be possible to make it so another account could be created on TriggerCMD that could give you another $12 per year adding an additional handler for my pc's server so that TriggerCMD user could request to trigger the TriggerCMD server on my pc? I don't know how tight the bond is between my TriggerCMD user identity and the pc server is. In other words, theoretically, you could have 10,000 gmail accounts you are getting $12 per yr and trigger request from while only having 3,000 PCs that have your server running. Whoever creates the TriggerCMD account with the pc would be able to send an invite to share their pc with other TriggerCMD users? I dunno tho. Maybe this might violate Google's TOS you have to adhere to on your end or not even possible for some other reason?

Google's remove voice match page
If you remove Voice Match,
Your Google Account and voice pattern will be completely removed from this device.
Your Assistant will no longer be able to recognize your voice.
You'll lose the ability to hear personalized info.
Important: You can't unlink your voice without unlinking your Google Account. They're tied.

If I was to remove voice match from my google home how would my google home be able to tell TriggerCMD that it is receiving a request from me. It would no longer know me. How would it even know to send the request "Kitchen Light Off" to TriggerCMD? It's knowledge to do that is in the Google Home app on my phone, not the Google Home itself. Right know when others in the home make one of my TriggerCMD requests it says "Sorry I don't recognize your voice so I can't connect you to TriggerCMD" Without voice match, there is no longer a phone or account linked to the device for it to even know to relate to TriggerCMD.

Maybe Alexa is the way to go...

@nathan7 I have never had or even played with a Alexa device. If I was to get one would it allow all family members access to TriggerCMD? Also, am I understanding this right? When you invoke Alexa to do a TriggerCMD function you have to say the whole mouthful "Alexa, ask TriggerCMD to run <command> on <computer>"?? I find "Hey Google kitchen off" being more than I want to say at times just to turn kitchen light off. If my Pixel phone is in my hand it is my preferred use of the Assistant because I can squeeze it to invoke the Assistant and only utter the two words "Kitchen Off." I have always been of the mindset someone either gets a G Assistant device or Alexa device but maybe that's wrong thinking. Maybe I need the addition of a Alexa device for the whole family to access TriggerCMD? Thoughts anyone?

@nathan7 said in Google Home:

I have an Echo too so I use Alexa for my commands as the activation is easier without saying "ask TRIGGERcmd to" first before "run <command> on <computer>" but I like the redundancy.

@russ I almost didn't renew my TriggerCMD account this year because I thought this was something it wasn't capable of doing. My account renews in Dec and I really don't want to replace all my good money I invested years ago in my X10 home equipment just so other family members can say things like "Hey Google, kitchen light off." This last holiday season I almost did it with the TP Link switches I've researched but it would have cost me $600 and although I believe I'd gain G Assistant access for everyone in the home, I'd lose the RF capability from all the other X10 remotes I have in the home to control these switches now. The RF of X10 was why it was so awesome 9 years ago when I got into it and gave my home a feeling of a smart home before they have become what they are now. I love that TriggerCMD has made my old tech feel more modern by giving me the ability to control my X10 server on my pc by just saying Hey Google but other people in the home asking me to Hey Google a X10 light or something for them is really getting old. So this is fixable on TriggerCMD's end?

@russ Google really does need to come up with different trigger options tho or at least stop making tv commercials saying "OK Google" setting off my device. You know sooner or later some big biz out there is gonna start making tv commercials with dialog for our home devices to hear that at some point say something like "OK Google. Where is the closest Target?"... or something like that where they get our home smart devices to tell us even more about them beyond the commercial itself.

So this is something that has been happening for a while. I have 2014 & 2016 pioneer stereos in my work van and Explorer. They both have a function I can press to activate Google Assistant. A few months back I was able to activate Assistant via my stereo and say "Return On" which is the routine I made for TriggerCMD to turn on my X10 outside lights and a couple lights inside my home before I came home that had been working great since 12/2017 when I found TriggerCMD. Lately when I do this it responds "TriggerCMD is not supported on this device" thru the stereo. I have the Pixel 2 XL and can give it a squeeze on it's "active edge" in the car holder to activate the Assistant and perform the operation but I was just wondering if anyone knows why it no longer works hands free thru the car stereo anymore? I just got so use to being able to not have to touch my phone to do this I was wonder what happened and why it changed... Is Google trying to force me to upgrade to a car stereo that has Android Auto?

I have just been in a chat with Google Home support and have requested that they add a feature to a share my shortcuts and Google Assistant apps in Google Home with other Google users so other users of my Google Home in my house can make requests of my Google Home without it replying that it doesn't recognize their voice as mine. If this was done on TriggerCMD's side of things I would think I would have to build my numerous shortcuts one by one on each added user's Google Home app and that is not that attractive. I hope it wouldn't be much more difficult for Google to figure out than the way they allow me to share my personal calendar with other users. If Google Home had a way to import/export shortcuts from the Home app in bulk I suppose having this happen on the TriggerCMD side would be more attractive to me. Until then I'll just keep using the TriggerCMD "bookmark" feature to allow others access to my smart home features.

Keep up the good work! I love TriggerCMD!

Just found this topic. I love this! The idea of me being away from my home and my trusted friend who is also my neighbor being able to turn my outside lights on/off and a few other things so easily is awesome! I suppose it would also only be right to share a link with my girlfriend to turn my outside lights on for her also. I suppose if relationship went south in a bad way I would just have to rebuild the trigger to remove her control?

I just entered it as an annual event into my Google Calendar with a email notification to be sent to me by Google one week before renewal. I figured that will work for me.

Awesome! Excellent work! Came home and activated Update Agent on server. Haven't spent much time with it but individual responses for individual commands is now working perfect it seems and when edited it seems to save the Voice Reply edits the first try. You don't mess around and get right on fixing stuff! Thanks!

So after doing some editing it seems that there is a problem with the changes being completed permanently on the first attempt. I can edit and select save. I then check by opening the GUI Editor again and see that the Voice Reply seems to have been changed but when I return an hour or more later and open the GUI Command Editor the voice reply will be blank again. It does appear that some of the changes are taking effect but only after repeatedly trying to change them they eventually become permanent and I don't know why it has to be done more than once. I suppose if I keep at it they will all eventually change permanently but I don't know why I just can't change one, select save once, and be done with it. This is really frustrating.

Great... Now my "All Lights Off" has GA reply "Done" So confusing. Dunno why that is working now when so many of my commands are still giving me the GA reply "Triggering _____ on LivRmHTPC"

I've tinkered with things a lot of ways to eventually get them working but this is stumping me. I'd really just like GA to say "done" in reply to a command. I had a bunch of my On commands stop working so I started investigating. I noticed in the GUI Command Editor was the new Voice Reply ability. For some reason I can't have individual replies to individual triggers and I'm fine with that. Just getting rid of the GA mouthful that comes as a response is great but it is consistently inconsistent. For example; I can get my "All Lights On" to trigger and GA consistently replies "Done" but my "All Lights Off" GA consistently replies "Triggering All Lights Off on LivRmHTPC" even though just like the other trigger they both have "Done" in the voice reply. And I don't know if you're aware of this and if it was on purpose but if I fill in a voice reply for a single trigger in the GUI Command Editor, it populates the rest of the Commands with the same Voice Reply automatically. I'm fine with that but why doesn't the GA reply work on all of them. If you look at my set up to investigate you really only need to looks at the current commands "All Lights Off" and "All Lights Please" they both have "Done" for a Voice Reply but "All Lights Off" is still giving me the GA reply "Triggering All Lights Off on LivRmHTPC" mouthful for a response. The worst part is it saying "on l-i-v-r-m-h-t-p-c" That's part alone is like hearing a 10 word response right there. I'd think if you can figure out why "All Lights Off" has GA response ignoring the "Voice Reply" field, it will tell me what I need to do with all my other commands where it's happening.

Also btw, I had everything working then around the time the "Voice Reply" field was added my "All Lights Please" stopped working as well as others. I'm sure you understand why my On is Please instead of On. When I first set things up I found things didn't like turning things "on on" some PC. Also when I first set this up I had in the GUI Command Editor Trigger field as "All light Please" and Voice field as "All Lights Please" and this worked consistently every time until around when the "Voice Reply" field was added. I went thru all my commands that stopped working and was able to keep the Trigger field unedited and just edit the Voice field to "All Lights" removing the "Please" from that field only. Right now all my triggers are working Just the Voice Reply is making no sense as to why it is consistently working for some and consistently not for others when they look like there is no reason to me on my end